Transcript of conference held at Jun 3, 2025 in room first_test@conference.miaiconvo.com Initial people present at 2:07:06 PM: Eni - Doctor Paul Hershberger Nick - Patient Transcript, started at 2:07:06 PM: ________________________________________________________________________________ <2:07:06 PM> Paul Hershberger joined the conference <2:07:06 PM> Nick - Patient joined the conference <2:07:06 PM> Eni - Doctor joined the conference <2:07:07 PM> Eni - Doctor: hi Nick um so I know you know we've been talking about your medications and the number of medications what are your concerns at this time <2:07:13 PM> Nick - Patient: here <2:07:27 PM> Nick - Patient: I just I'm just getting so dang frustrated <2:07:32 PM> Nick - Patient: so many <2:07:34 PM> Nick - Patient: that I'm taking <2:07:34 PM> Nick - Patient: I <2:07:37 PM> Nick - Patient: can't even take them all the time I mean I'm having to take them all throughout the day different times a day <2:07:42 PM> Eni - Doctor: oh <2:07:43 PM> Nick - Patient: and then like I don't know I don't even know if they're helping or not <2:07:47 PM> Eni - Doctor: okay so I hear like you feel like they haven't you know like you what makes you feel like you don't know if they're helping or not <2:07:54 PM> Nick - Patient: well I mean <2:07:59 PM> Nick - Patient: I'm in the hospital again and <2:08:02 PM> Nick - Patient: I mean I'm putting these pills I'm out but I feel like I'm feeling the exact same every day like I'm not really feeling any different <2:08:11 PM> Eni - Doctor: so you don't feel different what changes have you made at home <2:08:15 PM> Nick - Patient: it changes like when <2:08:22 PM> Eni - Doctor: so for example I know that you have on Diabetes hypertension what activities do you do at home for exercise <2:08:25 PM> Nick - Patient: great people I mean not much I mean I don't really feel good so I kind of just <2:08:38 PM> Nick - Patient: I'll just set <2:08:40 PM> Nick - Patient: like it's kind of hard to move <2:08:43 PM> Eni - Doctor: and um <2:08:45 PM> Nick - Patient: of these dang pills worked <2:08:46 PM> Eni - Doctor: what <2:08:46 PM> Eni - Doctor: you mentioned that you don't feel good so like <2:08:50 PM> Eni - Doctor: you think would make you feel better <2:08:54 PM> Eni - Doctor: okay so it seems like we're happy on the on the the doses that are required or like the max dose right so um <2:08:57 PM> Nick - Patient: oh <2:09:03 PM> Eni - Doctor: on a scale of one to ten like when being like I'm super ready to like make a change um or I'm not ready to make a change versus 10 I'm completely ready to make some sort of like exercise change where do you think you're at <2:09:03 PM> Nick - Patient: mm-hmm <2:09:17 PM> Nick - Patient: um I don't know I mean I feel like I'm at like <2:09:21 PM> Eni - Doctor: for you <2:09:23 PM> Nick - Patient: like an exercise change <2:09:24 PM> Eni - Doctor: just okay so three or four what made you say three or four and not a zero or a one <2:09:27 PM> Nick - Patient: like a four maybe a three <2:09:30 PM> Nick - Patient: yeah <2:09:34 PM> Nick - Patient: because I want to like I I mean obviously like I want to like be able to move around and stuff but I just like don't feel good <2:09:45 PM> Eni - Doctor: I see and when you say move around what does moving around like mean to you <2:09:49 PM> Nick - Patient: uh like I'd like to be able to like <2:09:55 PM> Nick - Patient: go on a walk with my wife or something like that instead of just sitting on the couch all day <2:09:57 PM> Eni - Doctor: and <2:10:01 PM> Nick - Patient: but I'm just like don't feel good to like move up and walk around <2:10:05 PM> Eni - Doctor: and is that something that you used to do go on a walk with your wife <2:10:06 PM> Nick - Patient: oh yeah yeah we used to all the time <2:10:15 PM> Nick - Patient: but I kind of <2:10:17 PM> Nick - Patient: went down <2:10:17 PM> Eni - Doctor: what changed <2:10:19 PM> Nick - Patient: I don't know I just I mean I just got older these little bones aren't working like they used to and I just <2:10:26 PM> Nick - Patient: I just get so exhausted every time I get up just like short of breath and <2:10:26 PM> Nick - Patient: my <2:10:30 PM> Eni - Doctor: band moving not moving around how has that made you feel <2:10:31 PM> Nick - Patient: don't <2:10:31 PM> Nick - Patient: don't seem to work like they used to so I just like kind of <2:10:36 PM> Nick - Patient: as much anymore <2:10:38 PM> Nick - Patient: so I mean I definitely miss it like I <2:10:47 PM> Nick - Patient: I'd like to go on a walk with my wife I mean that'd be great <2:10:51 PM> Nick - Patient: but <2:10:53 PM> Nick - Patient: now I'm just a lazy sack of crap <2:10:58 PM> Eni - Doctor: okay so it seems like <2:10:58 PM> Nick - Patient: it was <2:11:00 PM> Eni - Doctor: what would help you get from a four to like let's say like an eighth <2:11:04 PM> Nick - Patient: these dang pedals started working I just like <2:11:09 PM> Eni - Doctor: so it seems like you feel like the pills aren't working how often are you taking them <2:11:10 PM> Nick - Patient: feel like crap <2:11:12 PM> Nick - Patient: it I mean <2:11:20 PM> Nick - Patient: I don't know every other day every when I remember honestly <2:11:25 PM> Eni - Doctor: and <2:11:25 PM> Nick - Patient: there's just so there's just so many <2:11:29 PM> Eni - Doctor: why <2:11:29 PM> Eni - Doctor: Twitter and you say every other day <2:11:33 PM> Eni - Doctor: why every other day <2:11:34 PM> Nick - Patient: I don't it's just like whenever I can remember honestly like there's <2:11:39 PM> Eni - Doctor: what do you think would be ways that would help you keep track of your medications <2:11:41 PM> Nick - Patient: a <2:11:43 PM> Nick - Patient: the times I forget you got to take on my different times <2:11:47 PM> Nick - Patient: oh my God I don't know I can't keep track I'm an old fart <2:11:55 PM> Nick - Patient: I don't know if I had a personal assistant that would be nice but I can't afford that <2:12:06 PM> Nick - Patient: it might <2:12:06 PM> Eni - Doctor: so let's say that you don't you don't have a personal assistant but what are other ways that could function or what are other things that can function as a personal assistant <2:12:08 PM> Nick - Patient: cool down up here <2:12:18 PM> Eni - Doctor: okay <2:12:19 PM> Nick - Patient: remember like a clock or something or one of those I think <2:12:25 PM> Eni - Doctor: oh how do you feel about a pill container <2:12:25 PM> Nick - Patient: my brother has a like a pill container or something some of the sort <2:12:31 PM> Nick - Patient: I mean maybe it could be helpful I don't know I haven't used it before <2:12:40 PM> Eni - Doctor: are you open to the idea of using <2:12:43 PM> Nick - Patient: yes sir why not I feel like <2:12:47 PM> Nick - Patient: I could ask him where he got it maybe Meijer or something <2:12:48 PM> Eni - Doctor: how <2:12:48 PM> Eni - Doctor: oh okay so it seems like that that's a start so then how do you think you'll feel now <2:12:58 PM> Eni - Doctor: that like change your frustration having like a pill container pill organizer <2:13:03 PM> Nick - Patient: I don't know I guess it depends on how it works out I mean I don't know if they make any for <2:13:03 PM> Nick - Patient: I mean I <2:13:04 PM> Eni - Doctor: Michael <2:13:10 PM> Eni - Doctor: quick <2:13:11 PM> Nick - Patient: take <2:13:13 PM> Nick - Patient: at all different times of the day and figure out where to put them and <2:13:17 PM> Nick - Patient: I mean I guess I have to even set the pill container too <2:13:21 PM> Nick - Patient: oh no not really <2:13:22 PM> Eni - Doctor: and so you mentioned though that sometimes you take them so one day you do when do you notice a difference on the days that you do take the medication versus a day that you don't <2:13:35 PM> Eni - Doctor: not really <2:13:36 PM> Nick - Patient: it kind of just <2:13:38 PM> Nick - Patient: I'll be like oh yeah supposed to take that format or whatever the heck <2:13:41 PM> Eni - Doctor: and you mentioned like a personal assistant and now like we're assuming that potentially this pill organizer could help how do you think it would make you feel to have this pill organizer and the other thing you mention is a clock <2:13:44 PM> Nick - Patient: morning <2:13:44 PM> Nick - Patient: and <2:13:46 PM> Nick - Patient: the bottle I'll be like oh crap or I'll just pop one in <2:13:50 PM> Nick - Patient: but then like I don't know I don't feel any different <2:14:02 PM> Nick - Patient: I mean <2:14:12 PM> Nick - Patient: if I just <2:14:12 PM> Nick - Patient: had <2:14:14 PM> Nick - Patient: somebody handed me the pills or whatever like I would just take them like I don't care I'll take a pill but <2:14:15 PM> Paul Hershberger: we'll stop here <2:14:21 PM> Nick - Patient: I mean <2:14:24 PM> Nick - Patient: if I was able to remember I'd take them <2:14:30 PM> Paul Hershberger: so Nick you're only 60 years old you got old bones what's that the lazy stack of crap <2:14:38 PM> Nick - Patient: here <2:14:44 PM> Nick - Patient: Maybe <2:14:44 PM> Paul Hershberger: you've you've seen this patient before ________________________________________________________________________________ End of transcript at Jun 3, 2025, 2:14:53 PM