Transcript of conference held at Jul 17, 2025 in room first_test@conference.miaiconvo.com Initial people present at 1:30:39 PM: Paul Hershberger Victor Aballe Mosqueda - Doctor Kyle Arens - Patient Transcript, started at 1:30:39 PM: ________________________________________________________________________________ <1:30:39 PM> Victor Aballe Mosqueda - Doctor joined the conference <1:30:39 PM> Paul Hershberger joined the conference <1:30:39 PM> Kyle Arens - Patient joined the conference <1:30:40 PM> Victor Aballe Mosqueda - Doctor: knock knock <1:30:57 PM> Kyle Arens - Patient: come in <1:31:03 PM> Victor Aballe Mosqueda - Doctor: hi morning <1:31:05 PM> Kyle Arens - Patient: a good morning how are you I'm okay A little tired <1:31:06 PM> Victor Aballe Mosqueda - Doctor: how you doing <1:31:09 PM> Victor Aballe Mosqueda - Doctor: tired <1:31:14 PM> Kyle Arens - Patient: yeah <1:31:14 PM> Victor Aballe Mosqueda - Doctor: me a little bit more about that <1:31:16 PM> Victor Aballe Mosqueda - Doctor: hmm um <1:31:17 PM> Kyle Arens - Patient: oh you know just like <1:31:17 PM> Kyle Arens - Patient: kind of <1:31:20 PM> Kyle Arens - Patient: hung over I think and <1:31:23 PM> Kyle Arens - Patient: you know had a good weekend but <1:31:23 PM> Kyle Arens - Patient: just <1:31:27 PM> Kyle Arens - Patient: drained <1:31:28 PM> Kyle Arens - Patient: oh yeah sure so I went down to we're at our lake house and <1:31:31 PM> Victor Aballe Mosqueda - Doctor: you want to tell me more about your weekend what you did <1:31:35 PM> Victor Aballe Mosqueda - Doctor: is that all you remember from your weekend <1:31:43 PM> Kyle Arens - Patient: know just pretty normal weekend just had some drinks and watch TV and <1:31:51 PM> Kyle Arens - Patient: watch the sunset <1:31:53 PM> Kyle Arens - Patient: it <1:32:01 PM> Kyle Arens - Patient: uh yeah pretty much <1:32:02 PM> Victor Aballe Mosqueda - Doctor: and he says you said that like you feel a little bit hung over how much do you drink <1:32:06 PM> Kyle Arens - Patient: after those after the strengths <1:32:14 PM> Victor Aballe Mosqueda - Doctor: it's <1:32:17 PM> Victor Aballe Mosqueda - Doctor: and how often you get to <1:32:17 PM> Kyle Arens - Patient: it's hard because I don't really remember <1:32:22 PM> Kyle Arens - Patient: probably just based on the empty bottles I see <1:32:26 PM> Kyle Arens - Patient: like <1:32:29 PM> Kyle Arens - Patient: 24 pack of beer and maybe glass of wine <1:32:39 PM> Victor Aballe Mosqueda - Doctor: doing <1:32:39 PM> Victor Aballe Mosqueda - Doctor: it seems like we eat from your history like that's something that you've been <1:32:45 PM> Victor Aballe Mosqueda - Doctor: every every weekend or like that's something often you've been doing that <1:32:50 PM> Kyle Arens - Patient: oh yeah for years now maybe since I got this new job like 10 years ago but <1:32:50 PM> Kyle Arens - Patient: it's just <1:32:59 PM> Kyle Arens - Patient: weekends and <1:33:01 PM> Kyle Arens - Patient: you know I've never <1:33:04 PM> Kyle Arens - Patient: gotten in trouble or anything <1:33:07 PM> Kyle Arens - Patient: yeah <1:33:10 PM> Victor Aballe Mosqueda - Doctor: and when you do it like you said like have you noticed any changes on like how much are you drinking on the weekends from <1:33:19 PM> Kyle Arens - Patient: a year ago not so much but maybe <1:33:20 PM> Victor Aballe Mosqueda - Doctor: like a year ago to up to now <1:33:23 PM> Victor Aballe Mosqueda - Doctor: okay <1:33:30 PM> Kyle Arens - Patient: I would say it's definitely gotten more I'm drinking more than <1:33:35 PM> Kyle Arens - Patient: like 10 years ago for sure <1:33:38 PM> Kyle Arens - Patient: here <1:33:39 PM> Victor Aballe Mosqueda - Doctor: where do you think you have changed <1:33:43 PM> Kyle Arens - Patient: I mean most things in my life are pretty good I'm <1:33:47 PM> Kyle Arens - Patient: my job's really good I don't really have a lot of marriage problems <1:33:54 PM> Kyle Arens - Patient: I mean like I said I've never gotten in trouble for drinking or anything <1:34:01 PM> Victor Aballe Mosqueda - Doctor: and <1:34:01 PM> Victor Aballe Mosqueda - Doctor: I see <1:34:01 PM> Kyle Arens - Patient: maybe just because I have more money to spend on alcohol now <1:34:06 PM> Kyle Arens - Patient: yeah I think honestly I do it just because I'm bored and to kind of relax my my wife will have like a couple drinks with me but she usually ends up going to bed <1:34:08 PM> Victor Aballe Mosqueda - Doctor: um <1:34:10 PM> Victor Aballe Mosqueda - Doctor: usually drink for <1:34:12 PM> Victor Aballe Mosqueda - Doctor: um <1:34:13 PM> Victor Aballe Mosqueda - Doctor: feel like you drink for <1:34:13 PM> Victor Aballe Mosqueda - Doctor: for <1:34:16 PM> Victor Aballe Mosqueda - Doctor: pleasure or to just to relax and kind of give you a better statement <1:34:34 PM> Kyle Arens - Patient: um like a lot earlier than me some it's usually just me for most of the night <1:34:41 PM> Kyle Arens - Patient: so yeah just like relaxing and <1:34:42 PM> Victor Aballe Mosqueda - Doctor: and out of all those times that you've been drinking on a weekend like how many like in a scale like in percentages from 0 to <1:34:44 PM> Kyle Arens - Patient: featured board <1:34:55 PM> Victor Aballe Mosqueda - Doctor: and representing 100% like how many of those time have you been drinking alone <1:35:02 PM> Victor Aballe Mosqueda - Doctor: okay so it's looked like most of the time <1:35:02 PM> Victor Aballe Mosqueda - Doctor: you drink <1:35:03 PM> Kyle Arens - Patient: oh gosh um <1:35:07 PM> Kyle Arens - Patient: maybe like 60 60 plus percent <1:35:15 PM> Victor Aballe Mosqueda - Doctor: long just to relax <1:35:16 PM> Kyle Arens - Patient: yeah <1:35:18 PM> Victor Aballe Mosqueda - Doctor: and you told me that sometimes you have drift Drive <1:35:24 PM> Kyle Arens - Patient: oh yeah but I mean I drink like when you know I've got a pretty high tolerance and <1:35:25 PM> Victor Aballe Mosqueda - Doctor: the influence <1:35:27 PM> Victor Aballe Mosqueda - Doctor: okay <1:35:33 PM> Kyle Arens - Patient: I'm a good driver so never never had anything come of it and most of the time I drink at home <1:35:33 PM> Kyle Arens - Patient: but yeah <1:35:34 PM> Victor Aballe Mosqueda - Doctor: yeah <1:35:40 PM> Kyle Arens - Patient: on occasion <1:35:42 PM> Kyle Arens - Patient: never been pulled over <1:35:46 PM> Victor Aballe Mosqueda - Doctor: and what's what's the perspective on your family and friends about it <1:35:50 PM> Kyle Arens - Patient: oh they hate it <1:35:54 PM> Kyle Arens - Patient: yeah my uncle <1:35:56 PM> Victor Aballe Mosqueda - Doctor: okay <1:35:57 PM> Kyle Arens - Patient: I was growing up went to jail for two years for getting into a car accident when he was drunk so they're always scared that that'll happen but <1:36:06 PM> Kyle Arens - Patient: I know my limits yeah <1:36:11 PM> Victor Aballe Mosqueda - Doctor: and <1:36:13 PM> Victor Aballe Mosqueda - Doctor: if you ever <1:36:13 PM> Victor Aballe Mosqueda - Doctor: how you think <1:36:14 PM> Kyle Arens - Patient: if I ever did get in trouble with it <1:36:15 PM> Victor Aballe Mosqueda - Doctor: got to like run out of luck <1:36:19 PM> Victor Aballe Mosqueda - Doctor: in <1:36:19 PM> Victor Aballe Mosqueda - Doctor: that we have <1:36:21 PM> Victor Aballe Mosqueda - Doctor: you think that will impact your life <1:36:23 PM> Victor Aballe Mosqueda - Doctor: hmm <1:36:27 PM> Kyle Arens - Patient: I mean it would probably be really bad for my my job for sure <1:36:28 PM> Victor Aballe Mosqueda - Doctor: yeah <1:36:35 PM> Kyle Arens - Patient: my wife probably wouldn't be very happy <1:36:41 PM> Victor Aballe Mosqueda - Doctor: and you said like you today a little bit hung over but how many of those signs have you felt like you you completely blacked out that you don't remember anything of your weekend <1:36:53 PM> Victor Aballe Mosqueda - Doctor: if we're talking in percentages from 0 <1:36:57 PM> Kyle Arens - Patient: Maybe <1:36:59 PM> Victor Aballe Mosqueda - Doctor: to 10 <1:37:01 PM> Victor Aballe Mosqueda - Doctor: mm-hmm <1:37:02 PM> Kyle Arens - Patient: yeah around like 65 70 percent of the nights on the weekend yeah <1:37:09 PM> Victor Aballe Mosqueda - Doctor: and <1:37:14 PM> Victor Aballe Mosqueda - Doctor: you like is there anything that have made you think about like you're losing time if you don't remember stuff like on your weekends <1:37:23 PM> Kyle Arens - Patient: yeah I mean my wife will get annoyed by it sometimes she seems like <1:37:24 PM> Victor Aballe Mosqueda - Doctor: let's see well Kyle just because of like you know how often you're doing it and it seems like you're right on good control right but <1:37:24 PM> Victor Aballe Mosqueda - Doctor: that <1:37:30 PM> Kyle Arens - Patient: you know maybe she wants to say something but <1:37:33 PM> Kyle Arens - Patient: we both just kind of avoid it because you know it'll cause an argument so <1:37:55 PM> Victor Aballe Mosqueda - Doctor: have like older impacts not just socially but also when your health <1:38:00 PM> Victor Aballe Mosqueda - Doctor: and <1:38:00 PM> Victor Aballe Mosqueda - Doctor: can definitely affect other areas of your life <1:38:04 PM> Victor Aballe Mosqueda - Doctor: and while I'm a little bit concerned I would like to to get your perspective what like how you think about your drinking <1:38:05 PM> Kyle Arens - Patient: okay <1:38:13 PM> Victor Aballe Mosqueda - Doctor: of habits <1:38:15 PM> Kyle Arens - Patient: I know that I probably should drink less on the weekend but also like I said I mean I've never <1:38:19 PM> Paul Hershberger: okay <1:38:21 PM> Victor Aballe Mosqueda - Doctor: and if you were gonna <1:38:23 PM> Kyle Arens - Patient: I'm in a nice marriage I got a good job I've never gotten in trouble so <1:38:27 PM> Paul Hershberger: we'll stop here Victor <1:38:29 PM> Kyle Arens - Patient: of right now I don't know <1:38:32 PM> Kyle Arens - Patient: it seems like too much of a problem <1:38:38 PM> Victor Aballe Mosqueda - Doctor: yeah <1:38:39 PM> Paul Hershberger: hear <1:38:39 PM> Paul Hershberger: up so Victor let's ________________________________________________________________________________ End of transcript at Jul 17, 2025, 1:38:48 PM