Transcript of conference held at Sep 8, 2025 in room first_test@conference.miaiconvo.com Initial people present at 1:07:26 PM: Chandu - Doctor Paul Hershberger - Patient Transcript, started at 1:07:26 PM: ________________________________________________________________________________ <1:07:26 PM> Chandu - Doctor joined the conference <1:07:26 PM> Paul Hershberger - Patient joined the conference <1:07:27 PM> Paul Hershberger - Patient: just <1:07:44 PM> Chandu - Doctor: okay great <1:07:48 PM> Chandu - Doctor: all right <1:07:50 PM> Chandu - Doctor: and do you drink any alcohol <1:07:51 PM> Paul Hershberger - Patient: um not at all during the week but yeah I drink some of the weekends <1:07:53 PM> Chandu - Doctor: okay can you tell me about how much <1:07:58 PM> Paul Hershberger - Patient: okay that's a tough question doc <1:08:04 PM> Paul Hershberger - Patient: really don't count at all <1:08:06 PM> Chandu - Doctor: mmm <1:08:08 PM> Chandu - Doctor: how about this past weekend do you remember how much you drink <1:08:08 PM> Paul Hershberger - Patient: so <1:08:15 PM> Chandu - Doctor: okay <1:08:16 PM> Paul Hershberger - Patient: yeah no in fact <1:08:21 PM> Paul Hershberger - Patient: most weekends I don't really remember a whole lot about the weekends <1:08:27 PM> Chandu - Doctor: so could you tell me more about <1:08:27 PM> Chandu - Doctor: like <1:08:30 PM> Chandu - Doctor: it makes you drink what setting you would like to drink in <1:08:31 PM> Paul Hershberger - Patient: I <1:08:34 PM> Chandu - Doctor: mm-hmm <1:08:37 PM> Paul Hershberger - Patient: if I'm <1:08:37 PM> Paul Hershberger - Patient: I'm on the weekends I'm happy to drink in just about any setting if <1:08:41 PM> Paul Hershberger - Patient: going out with friends on Friday or Saturday Saturday night <1:08:46 PM> Chandu - Doctor: okay <1:08:46 PM> Paul Hershberger - Patient: we might be at a bar club or something <1:08:50 PM> Paul Hershberger - Patient: times I'll go to somebody else's house <1:08:53 PM> Paul Hershberger - Patient: up if if my friends are all busy and <1:08:57 PM> Paul Hershberger - Patient: there's nothing like that to do then I'll just <1:09:00 PM> Paul Hershberger - Patient: on a drink in my own man cave <1:09:02 PM> Paul Hershberger - Patient: um while I work hard during the week my days are long <1:09:04 PM> Chandu - Doctor: what about it do you enjoy doing <1:09:09 PM> Chandu - Doctor: but <1:09:13 PM> Paul Hershberger - Patient: I don't know I feel like during the week I have to be on and come when it comes to Friday afternoon Friday evening I'm ready to kick back and <1:09:23 PM> Paul Hershberger - Patient: and not really not think about much of anything <1:09:26 PM> Chandu - Doctor: mm-hmm <1:09:28 PM> Paul Hershberger - Patient: so <1:09:28 PM> Paul Hershberger - Patient: so <1:09:29 PM> Chandu - Doctor: okay <1:09:30 PM> Paul Hershberger - Patient: that's what I like I guess <1:09:34 PM> Paul Hershberger - Patient: it some people will say drinking helps them relax from me it's just kind of a getaway I guess <1:09:40 PM> Paul Hershberger - Patient: I'm not at all during the week <1:09:41 PM> Chandu - Doctor: how much do you drink during the week <1:09:48 PM> Paul Hershberger - Patient: you know I I just have to <1:09:52 PM> Paul Hershberger - Patient: I'm <1:09:54 PM> Paul Hershberger - Patient: I work in the accounting field and I've I've got to be sharp to get the numbers right <1:09:57 PM> Chandu - Doctor: like <1:10:01 PM> Chandu - Doctor: yeah how do you usually unwind then during the week I got to work <1:10:06 PM> Chandu - Doctor: mm-hmm <1:10:09 PM> Paul Hershberger - Patient: good question I I don't feel like I really do unwind much during the week it's sort of like <1:10:16 PM> Paul Hershberger - Patient: get home eat dinner <1:10:19 PM> Paul Hershberger - Patient: sometimes I have <1:10:22 PM> Paul Hershberger - Patient: work that I've brought home that I have to <1:10:25 PM> Paul Hershberger - Patient: attention to and I get some sleep and <1:10:29 PM> Paul Hershberger - Patient: back to the Grind <1:10:30 PM> Chandu - Doctor: yeah 13 up don't like huh <1:10:31 PM> Paul Hershberger - Patient: yeah <1:10:34 PM> Chandu - Doctor: mm-hmm <1:10:38 PM> Chandu - Doctor: however after your weekends it sounds like drinking has helped you unwind a little bit <1:10:44 PM> Chandu - Doctor: you feel refreshed when you go back to work <1:10:48 PM> Paul Hershberger - Patient: that kind of depends on <1:10:51 PM> Paul Hershberger - Patient: whether I was drinking on Sunday sometimes sometimes not so if I don't drink on Sundays and I feel a little better on Mondays <1:10:51 PM> Paul Hershberger - Patient: if I <1:11:01 PM> Paul Hershberger - Patient: I've been drinking on Sundays <1:11:05 PM> Paul Hershberger - Patient: you know Mondays tend not to be fun anyway <1:11:05 PM> Paul Hershberger - Patient: but <1:11:09 PM> Paul Hershberger - Patient: if I'm still kind of hung over <1:11:10 PM> Chandu - Doctor: right <1:11:12 PM> Paul Hershberger - Patient: that's not good <1:11:13 PM> Chandu - Doctor: yeah and the last month how often do you think you drink on Sundays <1:11:14 PM> Paul Hershberger - Patient: probably half the time it kind of depends <1:11:20 PM> Chandu - Doctor: okay <1:11:24 PM> Chandu - Doctor: right mm-hmm yeah <1:11:25 PM> Paul Hershberger - Patient: it's probably going to be more now that the NFL's <1:11:28 PM> Paul Hershberger - Patient: I can see then so <1:11:32 PM> Chandu - Doctor: pretty crazy game last night <1:11:35 PM> Chandu - Doctor: Bills game pretty amazing <1:11:38 PM> Chandu - Doctor: um but <1:11:38 PM> Paul Hershberger - Patient: ah <1:11:40 PM> Chandu - Doctor: on <1:11:41 PM> Chandu - Doctor: do you have any concerns about your drinking habits <1:11:49 PM> Paul Hershberger - Patient: I can't say I'm really worried about it <1:11:52 PM> Chandu - Doctor: the <1:11:53 PM> Paul Hershberger - Patient: my wife doesn't get on me <1:11:57 PM> Chandu - Doctor: probably <1:11:57 PM> Paul Hershberger - Patient: let's put it this way she didn't get on me but I know she would like me to drink less because I really don't get anything done on the weekends and <1:12:05 PM> Chandu - Doctor: hit the <1:12:08 PM> Paul Hershberger - Patient: what she will get upset about is if <1:12:13 PM> Paul Hershberger - Patient: if I've Drive let's say I was at a friend's house or a bar or something <1:12:18 PM> Paul Hershberger - Patient: and <1:12:18 PM> Paul Hershberger - Patient: and shall be upset <1:12:21 PM> Paul Hershberger - Patient: I should come get me but <1:12:22 PM> Chandu - Doctor: he like <1:12:24 PM> Paul Hershberger - Patient: hi I'm not even think about calling her <1:12:30 PM> Chandu - Doctor: have you thought about cutting down <1:12:35 PM> Chandu - Doctor: like maybe trying a few drinks Less on the weekends <1:12:41 PM> Paul Hershberger - Patient: I guess there are sometimes I think okay just take it easy <1:12:47 PM> Paul Hershberger - Patient: tonight or today or whatever <1:12:49 PM> Paul Hershberger - Patient: once I get started then I'm not <1:12:49 PM> Paul Hershberger - Patient: I'm <1:12:52 PM> Paul Hershberger - Patient: early paying attention to <1:12:55 PM> Paul Hershberger - Patient: how much I'm drinking so <1:12:57 PM> Paul Hershberger - Patient: so that's probably the only thing I've really thought of <1:13:00 PM> Chandu - Doctor: right right <1:13:02 PM> Paul Hershberger - Patient: generally <1:13:02 PM> Paul Hershberger - Patient: but like I said I'm <1:13:05 PM> Paul Hershberger - Patient: just having a good time <1:13:07 PM> Paul Hershberger - Patient: he may not not remembering the weekend <1:13:09 PM> Chandu - Doctor: he said sometimes you feel refreshed to the first starting the week again right <1:13:16 PM> Chandu - Doctor: based on our conversation it seems like a lot of times you don't really remember what you did over the weekend <1:13:22 PM> Chandu - Doctor: um so how does that feel when you go back to work <1:13:25 PM> Chandu - Doctor: right because it seems like that's most of your unwinding your you time right <1:13:34 PM> Chandu - Doctor: you're not remembering a lot of the fun you're having how does that make you feel <1:13:42 PM> Paul Hershberger - Patient: I guess I've really haven't thought about it that way <1:13:47 PM> Paul Hershberger - Patient: I guess I guess I just want to <1:13:49 PM> Chandu - Doctor: he <1:13:53 PM> Paul Hershberger - Patient: feel that in the moment it's not so much I want to have memories of <1:13:59 PM> Paul Hershberger - Patient: of <1:14:01 PM> Paul Hershberger - Patient: out what happened <1:14:04 PM> Paul Hershberger - Patient: I guess there are sometimes I <1:14:07 PM> Paul Hershberger - Patient: wonder what happened you know did I say anything stupid <1:14:13 PM> Chandu - Doctor: right <1:14:13 PM> Paul Hershberger - Patient: like I said I might <1:14:15 PM> Paul Hershberger - Patient: somebody asked me about the game and I know I watched it but I don't remember it <1:14:21 PM> Paul Hershberger - Patient: well it's not like she doesn't drink at all certainly shouldn't drink as much as I do I don't like disappointing her <1:14:21 PM> Chandu - Doctor: okay <1:14:24 PM> Chandu - Doctor: and have you ever wondered wife told you like her feelings about what's going on how did that make you feel <1:14:43 PM> Paul Hershberger - Patient: guess <1:14:45 PM> Paul Hershberger - Patient: I guess when she <1:14:49 PM> Paul Hershberger - Patient: I <1:14:49 PM> Paul Hershberger - Patient: I know that she's unhappy that <1:14:52 PM> Paul Hershberger - Patient: I would do something on the weekend and didn't get it done <1:14:55 PM> Paul Hershberger - Patient: then at that point I think okay well I got to make sure I <1:15:00 PM> Paul Hershberger - Patient: back off next weekend and <1:15:04 PM> Paul Hershberger - Patient: get some chores done <1:15:08 PM> Paul Hershberger - Patient: or I'll sometimes just figure out how to get it done during the week even though I'm busy <1:15:08 PM> Chandu - Doctor: and <1:15:14 PM> Paul Hershberger - Patient: here <1:15:16 PM> Chandu - Doctor: what do you think <1:15:16 PM> Chandu - Doctor: is <1:15:19 PM> Chandu - Doctor: his part about <1:15:21 PM> Chandu - Doctor: you know making that change like cutting down the next weekend <1:15:30 PM> Paul Hershberger - Patient: well once <1:15:33 PM> Paul Hershberger - Patient: like I said once I get started <1:15:36 PM> Paul Hershberger - Patient: um <1:15:37 PM> Paul Hershberger - Patient: I'm not really paying attention now much I drink so <1:15:41 PM> Paul Hershberger - Patient: to cut back I'd have to figure out some way to <1:15:46 PM> Paul Hershberger - Patient: you know once I'm a few during sin <1:15:52 PM> Paul Hershberger - Patient: cut myself off or have somebody <1:15:53 PM> Chandu - Doctor: over <1:15:55 PM> Paul Hershberger - Patient: not give me any more <1:15:58 PM> Paul Hershberger - Patient: what's stop here Chen do hang on just a second <1:16:00 PM> Chandu - Doctor: okay <1:16:05 PM> Chandu - Doctor: okay ________________________________________________________________________________ End of transcript at Sep 8, 2025, 1:16:21 PM