Transcript of conference held at Dec 9, 2025 in room first_test@conference.miaiconvo.com Initial people present at 7:07:49 PM: Aneesh - Doctor Paul Hershberger - Patient Transcript, started at 7:07:49 PM: ________________________________________________________________________________ <7:07:49 PM> Paul Hershberger - Patient joined the conference <7:07:49 PM> Aneesh - Doctor joined the conference <7:07:49 PM> Paul Hershberger - Patient: um yeah on the weekends I drink some <7:07:49 PM> Aneesh - Doctor: all right so next on the list Paul I wanted to discuss if you drink alcohol at all <7:07:59 PM> Aneesh - Doctor: actually tell me a little bit more about how much <7:08:02 PM> Paul Hershberger - Patient: it how much <7:08:09 PM> Paul Hershberger - Patient: I don't know I I'm on the weekends I'm really not counting how much I'm drinking I'm just having a good time <7:08:10 PM> Aneesh - Doctor: okay <7:08:17 PM> Paul Hershberger - Patient: oh I don't know I guess that depends on whether I'm at a bar or at home <7:08:19 PM> Aneesh - Doctor: um how much do you like after the fact how much do you notice you might have drank <7:08:31 PM> Paul Hershberger - Patient: you know if I'm home <7:08:34 PM> Paul Hershberger - Patient: I easily go through <7:08:36 PM> Paul Hershberger - Patient: it's usually probably at least six or eight beers <7:08:40 PM> Paul Hershberger - Patient: on an evening if not more probably sometimes more from out of bar <7:08:46 PM> Paul Hershberger - Patient: a lot of times I'll have mixed drinks <7:08:50 PM> Paul Hershberger - Patient: yeah quite frankly I often just don't remember and I'm not even paying attention to how many I've had <7:08:57 PM> Paul Hershberger - Patient: like I said it's not a big deal I just <7:09:01 PM> Paul Hershberger - Patient: done wine on the weekend and have a good time <7:09:03 PM> Aneesh - Doctor: yeah absolutely um so I know you said you go to the bar sometimes how do you get there and how do you come back from it <7:09:06 PM> Paul Hershberger - Patient: uh <7:09:13 PM> Paul Hershberger - Patient: most of the time if I'm at a bar <7:09:16 PM> Paul Hershberger - Patient: I may drive myself but then <7:09:19 PM> Paul Hershberger - Patient: have somebody bring me home or sometimes <7:09:22 PM> Aneesh - Doctor: possible <7:09:22 PM> Paul Hershberger - Patient: my wife will be there and she'll she drinks some but usually not like I do <7:09:28 PM> Paul Hershberger - Patient: um or friend sometimes I'll get it Uber <7:09:32 PM> Paul Hershberger - Patient: I I try not to drive after I've been there sometimes I do if sometimes I just feel like <7:09:36 PM> Aneesh - Doctor: office <7:09:39 PM> Paul Hershberger - Patient: I don't know if I think I'm okay to drive I'll do that <7:09:43 PM> Aneesh - Doctor: is that something that concerns you <7:09:52 PM> Paul Hershberger - Patient: well I I don't want to be in an accident or get a DUI or anything like that so <7:09:59 PM> Paul Hershberger - Patient: I guess if I'm <7:10:02 PM> Paul Hershberger - Patient: I think if I'm totally wasted <7:10:05 PM> Paul Hershberger - Patient: know some of my friends might <7:10:07 PM> Paul Hershberger - Patient: might insist that I not drive or call an Uber for me <7:10:14 PM> Paul Hershberger - Patient: so I yeah I guess I try to be a little careful but <7:10:19 PM> Paul Hershberger - Patient: I you know I've not had a problem <7:10:22 PM> Aneesh - Doctor: okay I'll try and I know you said your wife sometimes brings you back <7:10:28 PM> Aneesh - Doctor: how is she kind of felt about <7:10:29 PM> Paul Hershberger - Patient: um <7:10:32 PM> Aneesh - Doctor: you driving yourself sometimes and that kind of thing <7:10:37 PM> Aneesh - Doctor: up <7:10:37 PM> Paul Hershberger - Patient: well she <7:10:37 PM> Paul Hershberger - Patient: she <7:10:39 PM> Paul Hershberger - Patient: out certainly done what me to drive <7:10:43 PM> Paul Hershberger - Patient: like I said <7:10:43 PM> Paul Hershberger - Patient: if <7:10:46 PM> Paul Hershberger - Patient: drives usually it's <7:10:49 PM> Paul Hershberger - Patient: she's had at least a few drinks use lie so <7:10:53 PM> Paul Hershberger - Patient: and that's probably not great either <7:10:56 PM> Paul Hershberger - Patient: a <7:10:56 PM> Aneesh - Doctor: yeah what do you think might not make that too great <7:11:05 PM> Paul Hershberger - Patient: well I guess <7:11:07 PM> Paul Hershberger - Patient: it you know neither of us want to get a DUI the worst thing that would be in an accident where somebody gets hurt or killed so <7:11:15 PM> Aneesh - Doctor: mm-hmm and something like that might be pretty impactful in your life <7:11:15 PM> Paul Hershberger - Patient: um <7:11:17 PM> Paul Hershberger - Patient: oh for sure yeah that can't happen <7:11:27 PM> Aneesh - Doctor: I'm sure and then is there <7:11:31 PM> Aneesh - Doctor: anything about you know drinking on the weekends that you enjoy <7:11:33 PM> Paul Hershberger - Patient: oh yeah I mean that's that's why I do it I I work hard during the week and <7:11:41 PM> Paul Hershberger - Patient: come the weekend it's it's like I don't know my motto is work hard play hard and <7:11:49 PM> Paul Hershberger - Patient: drinking you know whether it be with friends or alone it's kind of like forgetting about everything from the work week and <7:11:53 PM> Aneesh - Doctor: a <7:11:57 PM> Paul Hershberger - Patient: just you know <7:12:01 PM> Paul Hershberger - Patient: you know what I'm doing or who I'm with <7:12:04 PM> Paul Hershberger - Patient: know just feel like <7:12:07 PM> Paul Hershberger - Patient: drinking is the fun part of it <7:12:11 PM> Paul Hershberger - Patient: um <7:12:11 PM> Aneesh - Doctor: yeah here you what other kind of things do you do to you know play hard on the weekends <7:12:21 PM> Paul Hershberger - Patient: well <7:12:25 PM> Paul Hershberger - Patient: but I can't say I do much else I mean it might be <7:12:30 PM> Paul Hershberger - Patient: you know that some I like sports I might be getting together with buddies to watch watch a game or whatever or <7:12:30 PM> Paul Hershberger - Patient: doing <7:12:38 PM> Paul Hershberger - Patient: out on my own <7:12:41 PM> Paul Hershberger - Patient: or being with friends <7:12:46 PM> Paul Hershberger - Patient: but I don't know that I really do much else to <7:12:48 PM> Aneesh - Doctor: not sure <7:12:49 PM> Paul Hershberger - Patient: to unwind <7:12:51 PM> Paul Hershberger - Patient: um <7:12:54 PM> Aneesh - Doctor: anything you feel like you're missing out on because of doing that you you drink or you hang out with friends and drink <7:13:04 PM> Paul Hershberger - Patient: well I don't a lot of times I don't remember <7:13:11 PM> Paul Hershberger - Patient: I guess you could say <7:13:14 PM> Aneesh - Doctor: mm-hmm <7:13:14 PM> Paul Hershberger - Patient: I'm missing out on <7:13:16 PM> Paul Hershberger - Patient: being able to remember the fun <7:13:21 PM> Paul Hershberger - Patient: I think my wife would say <7:13:24 PM> Paul Hershberger - Patient: it's not like I'm <7:13:28 PM> Paul Hershberger - Patient: missing out on doing tasks or chores around the house but certainly I'm sure she'd appreciate if I was in a better <7:13:36 PM> Paul Hershberger - Patient: states to be able to do some of that stuff than I usually am on Saturday or Sunday <7:13:39 PM> Aneesh - Doctor: you know <7:13:41 PM> Paul Hershberger - Patient: it well if I wasn't drinking as much I probably would remember more <7:13:42 PM> Aneesh - Doctor: is there like a way you think he can change what you're doing to make it so you know you're remembering the fun you have or you're able to kind of help out a little bit more on the weekends <7:13:59 PM> Aneesh - Doctor: so <7:14:00 PM> Paul Hershberger - Patient: but you know and I you know at some point you don't <7:14:06 PM> Paul Hershberger - Patient: pay as much attention to how much more you're drinking so <7:14:11 PM> Paul Hershberger - Patient: Christmas <7:14:12 PM> Aneesh - Doctor: so you know suppose you kind of <7:14:19 PM> Aneesh - Doctor: a new on you know mostly just drinking on the weekends you know using it to kind of make make the work week easier how does that look to you going forward <7:14:34 PM> Paul Hershberger - Patient: I guess I <7:14:37 PM> Paul Hershberger - Patient: as long as nothing bad happens <7:14:40 PM> Aneesh - Doctor: oh yeah and <7:14:41 PM> Paul Hershberger - Patient: looks good <7:14:43 PM> Paul Hershberger - Patient: depend what the bad thing would be like we talked about earlier DUI or an accident would be I guess the bad things to come to mind and <7:14:46 PM> Aneesh - Doctor: you know something bad happened what would it look like after that <7:14:54 PM> Aneesh - Doctor: it's <7:15:01 PM> Paul Hershberger - Patient: of things what looks so good at that point ________________________________________________________________________________ End of transcript at Dec 9, 2025, 7:15:11 PM