Transcript of conference held at Mar 12, 2026 in room first_test@conference.miaiconvo.com Initial people present at 12:49:43 PM: Jordan Prox - Doctor Fellow Jitser Ben - Patient Paul Hershberger Transcript, started at 12:49:43 PM: ________________________________________________________________________________ <12:49:43 PM> Jordan Prox - Doctor joined the conference <12:49:43 PM> Paul Hershberger joined the conference <12:49:43 PM> Ben - Patient joined the conference <12:49:43 PM> Jordan Prox - Doctor: okay so hi been my name is Jordan one of the doctors here in the office today I know we're here for your physical and we kind of went through some of the the basic of your health here so I kind of want to just transition to some social aspects of what you've been going through does that sound okay <12:49:43 PM> Paul Hershberger: the other <12:49:53 PM> Ben - Patient: sure <12:50:06 PM> Jordan Prox - Doctor: great so if you wouldn't mind just telling me what's kind of your drinking habits <12:50:06 PM> Ben - Patient: yeah I just drink it you know a couple days a week <12:50:12 PM> Jordan Prox - Doctor: okay yeah tell me a little more about that <12:50:15 PM> Ben - Patient: yeah so I normally you know I don't drink during the week because I have work so I just drink on the weekends <12:50:29 PM> Ben - Patient: on you know <12:50:29 PM> Ben - Patient: just <12:50:31 PM> Ben - Patient: have to relax have some fun yeah that's pretty much it <12:50:37 PM> Jordan Prox - Doctor: and how much drinking would you say on a typical occasion <12:50:37 PM> Ben - Patient: um yeah on the weekends I'd say you know <12:50:45 PM> Jordan Prox - Doctor: okay <12:50:46 PM> Ben - Patient: right I'd get up to like 10 or so drinks and then usually I start to lose count around then <12:50:53 PM> Ben - Patient: I mean usually it's just kind of every weekend so it's just you know to have fun <12:50:55 PM> Jordan Prox - Doctor: and was kind of the <12:50:59 PM> Jordan Prox - Doctor: occasion situation you're kind of in that state <12:51:09 PM> Jordan Prox - Doctor: mm-hmm <12:51:10 PM> Ben - Patient: a <12:51:10 PM> Ben - Patient: my my wife drinks a little bit too but it's mostly just you know I have <12:51:16 PM> Ben - Patient: during the week and it's to relax and kind of you know just you know and a week you just kind of want to <12:51:20 PM> Jordan Prox - Doctor: yeah yeah I see it's just kind of more of a try to <12:51:27 PM> Ben - Patient: um forget what happened during the <12:51:30 PM> Ben - Patient: what happened with work and how stressful that can be so <12:51:34 PM> Ben - Patient: um <12:51:39 PM> Jordan Prox - Doctor: move you know get so we can just kind of try to relax and enjoy yourself <12:51:43 PM> Jordan Prox - Doctor: have a good time what other aspects do you enjoy about drinking <12:51:52 PM> Ben - Patient: I just think you know <12:51:56 PM> Ben - Patient: when you when I was drinking you know that's I don't have to think about the <12:52:00 PM> Jordan Prox - Doctor: mm-hmm <12:52:02 PM> Ben - Patient: what else is going on my life with work I can kind of just let loose <12:52:09 PM> Ben - Patient: yeah I'm just I can just enjoy the weekend it's just <12:52:13 PM> Ben - Patient: kind of what I've been doing for a while now it's what I Look to do <12:52:14 PM> Jordan Prox - Doctor: okay <12:52:18 PM> Ben - Patient: um <12:52:18 PM> Ben - Patient: you know <12:52:19 PM> Jordan Prox - Doctor: there any aspects of drinking on the weekends that you particularly don't enjoy <12:52:28 PM> Ben - Patient: sometimes <12:52:30 PM> Ben - Patient: I'll have you know friends and family over who <12:52:30 PM> Ben - Patient: you know <12:52:37 PM> Ben - Patient: don't really understand you know why I'm you know drunk on the weekends and it's kind of <12:52:44 PM> Ben - Patient: the easiest to interact with them sometimes will be <12:52:47 PM> Ben - Patient: later <12:52:47 PM> Ben - Patient: uh you know angry with me <12:52:50 PM> Ben - Patient: year that I wasn't you know completely present with them but <12:52:52 PM> Jordan Prox - Doctor: mm-hmm <12:52:54 PM> Ben - Patient: other than that you know I kind of I like doing like doing it that's because that's that's what I've done for a while now <12:52:55 PM> Jordan Prox - Doctor: problem <12:52:57 PM> Jordan Prox - Doctor: mm-hmm have you ever felt like you needed to cut down on your drinking <12:53:01 PM> Ben - Patient: yeah I mean sometimes my my wife tells me to maybe not drink as much <12:53:16 PM> Ben - Patient: but to me you know it's kind of what I've always <12:53:21 PM> Ben - Patient: like doing and <12:53:23 PM> Ben - Patient: um I just I feel it would be hard to make that make that change <12:53:25 PM> Jordan Prox - Doctor: when <12:53:25 PM> Jordan Prox - Doctor: okay do you ever get irritable or people say you like you get angry <12:53:28 PM> Ben - Patient: it um I don't get angry <12:53:35 PM> Jordan Prox - Doctor: drink <12:53:37 PM> Jordan Prox - Doctor: mm-hmm <12:53:41 PM> Ben - Patient: just you know The Weeknd goes by fast and <12:53:46 PM> Ben - Patient: ah yeah I don't I don't remember much about what happens but I've been told I'm I don't get angry or mean or anything <12:53:47 PM> Jordan Prox - Doctor: okay and then do you ever feel guilty about your drinking habits <12:53:54 PM> Ben - Patient: uh sometimes you know when friends or family you know they <12:53:59 PM> Jordan Prox - Doctor: okay and then do you ever feel like you need to when you get up in the morning feel like you need to get a drink <12:54:05 PM> Ben - Patient: they don't love that I'm always you know drunk on the weekends so feel sometimes bad that <12:54:11 PM> Ben - Patient: you know they're they're unhappy but no <12:54:14 PM> Ben - Patient: on the weekends you know I start pretty early in the day so but during the week you know I don't drink so <12:54:21 PM> Jordan Prox - Doctor: okay <12:54:27 PM> Jordan Prox - Doctor: yeah okay yeah so that kind of what I'm hearing from you is that you know from your perspective it doesn't you don't feel like it's much of an issue just kind of your way to and not let to just kind of relax and enjoy yourself but it sounds like you know some of <12:54:27 PM> Jordan Prox - Doctor: some of <12:54:29 PM> Ben - Patient: yeah so <12:54:45 PM> Jordan Prox - Doctor: plus people <12:54:47 PM> Jordan Prox - Doctor: around you your wife friends <12:54:49 PM> Jordan Prox - Doctor: may have some concern about your habits <12:54:49 PM> Jordan Prox - Doctor: what <12:54:54 PM> Jordan Prox - Doctor: the thoughts on that <12:54:56 PM> Jordan Prox - Doctor: here yeah and I also I remember early you mentioned about that and that's something I kind of bought you to is about their what their thoughts about your drinking habits and how they <12:55:00 PM> Ben - Patient: tough because you know that's what I like to do but on the other hand there's my family who's <12:55:07 PM> Ben - Patient: you know they probably prefer if I <12:55:12 PM> Ben - Patient: just a little <12:55:12 PM> Ben - Patient: you know cut down a little bit that way <12:55:16 PM> Ben - Patient: present with them and <12:55:19 PM> Ben - Patient: um I can <12:55:21 PM> Ben - Patient: enjoy I guess The Weeknd more with them that rather than you know necessarily by myself so <12:55:27 PM> Ben - Patient: I would consider <12:55:37 PM> Jordan Prox - Doctor: you know just have concern related to that <12:55:41 PM> Jordan Prox - Doctor: I guess <12:55:44 PM> Jordan Prox - Doctor: would you like be interested in some sort of like would you consider trying to reduce your drinking <12:55:52 PM> Jordan Prox - Doctor: mm-hmm <12:55:56 PM> Ben - Patient: if I saw you know affecting my life and a major way <12:56:04 PM> Ben - Patient: yeah it's just something I've been doing for a while now so I think <12:56:07 PM> Jordan Prox - Doctor: mm-hmm what would you say like on a scale one to 10 year motivation level is right now to <12:56:09 PM> Ben - Patient: change like that's going to be really difficult <12:56:12 PM> Ben - Patient: um I probably sound in the middle like around a five right now <12:56:20 PM> Jordan Prox - Doctor: considers reducing your drinking <12:56:22 PM> Jordan Prox - Doctor: okay <12:56:28 PM> Ben - Patient: here <12:56:29 PM> Jordan Prox - Doctor: is there <12:56:32 PM> Ben - Patient: um I'd say I'm not lower because I do recognize that you know my family has as mentioned to me that <12:56:32 PM> Jordan Prox - Doctor: I guess why not like a lower two or three <12:56:47 PM> Ben - Patient: um they they view as a problem so <12:56:47 PM> Ben - Patient: I guess <12:56:52 PM> Jordan Prox - Doctor: okay <12:56:53 PM> Ben - Patient: say that well I'm not as low as two or three <12:56:57 PM> Jordan Prox - Doctor: and would your <12:57:00 PM> Jordan Prox - Doctor: look be I guess if you decided not to change <12:57:04 PM> Jordan Prox - Doctor: what you think the consequences of that would be <12:57:08 PM> Jordan Prox - Doctor: mm-hmm <12:57:08 PM> Ben - Patient: yeah I mean you know right now I do have a good marriage <12:57:14 PM> Ben - Patient: have a good relationship with my family <12:57:17 PM> Ben - Patient: but I guess that's something that <12:57:19 PM> Jordan Prox - Doctor: how about it <12:57:21 PM> Ben - Patient: if I <12:57:21 PM> Ben - Patient: could change in the future if <12:57:23 PM> Ben - Patient: you doing what I'm doing that's something that you know scares me <12:57:26 PM> Jordan Prox - Doctor: yeah no I think that's important to consider you know <12:57:30 PM> Ben - Patient: mmm <12:57:30 PM> Paul Hershberger: we'll stop here Jordan <12:57:32 PM> Jordan Prox - Doctor: not only how the drinking effects you but also the people around you and those relationships which I know <12:57:38 PM> Jordan Prox - Doctor: important to you <12:57:40 PM> Jordan Prox - Doctor: so <12:57:41 PM> Jordan Prox - Doctor: okay ________________________________________________________________________________ End of transcript at Mar 12, 2026, 12:57:46 PM